http://alyshaa-babee.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] alyshaa-babee.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] bottom_draco2009-12-31 12:32 am

want some ideas to write a fic!

hiia people :)
i just want to brainstorm a bit , ive never written a fic before but i really want to try and i wanted to know if anyone had any requests or ideas or anything really! heres the conditions; theirs no debating the pairing i only like harry/draco so its all i want to write xD and i want it to be a hogwarts era fic other than that im open to everything (except for the obvious, ill only write bottom!draco)  .
thaaanks :)

[identity profile] groolover.livejournal.com 2009-12-31 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
This isn't meant to sound nasty, but I have to confess that I am baffled as to why anyone would CHOOSE not to use correct spelling and grammar. If I see a story that has lots of incorrect spelling and/or grammar in the HEADER, I won't touch it with a bargepole. Why would you alienate possible readers before you've even started?

[identity profile] teprometo.livejournal.com 2009-12-31 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed. Literacy is a precious gift. Language is sacred. It hurts my brain and my heart to see people blatantly disregard it. Especially people who claim to be "writers." Perhaps I expect too much as an editor. Perhaps people just don't expect enough of themselves.

[identity profile] teprometo.livejournal.com 2009-12-31 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the problem is that you seem to have an on/off switch. I text in complete sentences with correct spelling and grammar, so I certainly do it with an entry I plan to publish to the internet where millions of people will have access to it. Spelling is a bit harder for some people, which I completely understand. Even I have an automatic spell-checker on my internet browser to catch stupid little typos and bigger issues (such as the fact that I still have to think about how many Cs and Rs to put into "occurred"). Something like that would catch your repeated "grammer" misspelling. It helps you learn at the same time as it saves your ass.

I went through high school and a good portion of college and was a T.A. this past semester in an English class. Don't let letter grades make you feel content in your English performance. There should always be a difference between the standard an institution holds you to and the standard to which you hold yourself. Sadly, getting an "A" doesn't mean much in practice.

I ramble. So, while you say you would never write a fic with poor spelling and grammar, the fact that you would write anything that way implies laziness, insincerity and disregard for language. Personally, I don't think it's ever acceptable to intentionally ignore the basic rules of language. If you know and understand them, use them. Always. It looks awful if you don't.

None of this is meant to offend. It's something that I have serious issues with.

[identity profile] groolover.livejournal.com 2009-12-31 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly.

[identity profile] dadomz.livejournal.com 2010-01-03 04:34 pm (UTC)(link)
This.

Errors are unavoidable but it's practically sacrilege to blatantly disregard it, imho.

I will admit to being weak with syntax--and to think I got an A in all my English and Literature classes. This is why I work with an editor for all my works--whether published or personal.

Anyway, It's hard for me to imagine that people have an on and off button for grammar. I mean, when I text, I text in whole sentences as well. Sure, I short-cut but they aren't sticky caps--I usually just change the word "to" into "2" and that's very rare (mostly because I don't have cellphone buttons, just the screen to manipulate the body of my text). Other than that, I wish to retain polished sentence structure, proper conjunction/preposition usage, and spelling--but English isn't my first language (technically) and I'm aghast that people who are able to, choose not to.

[identity profile] teprometo.livejournal.com 2010-01-03 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
*squishes you*

It's official. LJ is a better community than deviantART. I've gotten much more positive response to this one little message strain on LJ than on countless helpful suggestions to "blooming writers" on dA. And here I wasn't even the one to start it! This is a very exciting moment. Other people who value language really tickle me.

I think you've really got something with the English as a learned language vs. English as a kind of instinctual one angle. English is hard. Why make it harder by ignoring its structures? Even I sometimes sit for a few minutes and wonder exactly which preposition to use (of/from can be challenging to anyone... or should that be for?). Not doing that hurts eeeeeveryone. But, to be fair, I didn't even know what a preposition was until I began studying Spanish. Just goes to show: everyone should study a non-native language. It whipped my English into shape better than anything else could, I think.

[identity profile] dadomz.livejournal.com 2010-01-04 05:41 am (UTC)(link)
Welcome to the club! I've long given up being critical over at DA--I'm a Fine Arts major (with a Philosophy minor) and it appalls me that constructive criticism, no matter how tactful, is frowned upon there. For me, critiques are a manifestation of respect--people care enough to tell you what you could do to be better. As an artist, you're supposed to take that opinion into account and acknowledge your mistake if there is one. Sure, you're free to defend and explain yourself but not wholly discredit the person's opinion, much more attack said person.

And yes, indeed, English is definitely hard! I know a lot of individuals, whose first language is English and yet, they have a hard time comprehending the structure and the rules. Goes to show that just because you speak in a distinct twang, doesn't necessarily make you perfectly proficient in English.

Learning English and learning how to write is an incessant process for me. I love how, when you've gotten the crucial foundation of the language, you're able to manipulate it at will and play it down to an art. But like you, I wouldn't have understood how beautiful it was until I learned Chinese (along with my native language).




[identity profile] teprometo.livejournal.com 2010-01-04 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
I swear when I joined dA 8 years ago it wasn't like this. It's gone waaaay downhill.

Language is a funny beast. It's the same as the other arts in that the more you learn about it, the more you understand that you'll never be perfect, that you still have far to go. It's both frustrating and encouraging. Very odd.

[identity profile] groolover.livejournal.com 2009-12-31 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
My original question, though, was about WHY you would choose to deliberately use incorrect grammar and spelling? I honestly don't understand. I mean, it can't be a time issue... it takes no longer to write "grammar" than "grammer". I am really baffled that you say you hate reading incorrect grammar yourself, yet you see nothing wrong with making a post (in which you're asking for help) that's riddled with it.

[identity profile] teprometo.livejournal.com 2010-01-03 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
But it's always needed.
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[identity profile] teprometo.livejournal.com 2010-01-04 06:10 am (UTC)(link)
Oops. You replied to my comment!

[identity profile] dadomz.livejournal.com 2010-01-04 06:11 am (UTC)(link)
My bad!

[identity profile] dadomz.livejournal.com 2010-01-04 06:11 am (UTC)(link)
From a mod's standpoint--comprehensible posts are acceptable and will not be removed. This is why your post is still here. However, in this community, we promote the proper usage of all languages--it's not a requirement of course, but we hope everyone does so as a gesture of respect.

Mod's hat off--I'm just a bit baffled. You claim to be adroit with the language yet you feel that this post is irrelevant hence, it doesn't deserve so much as basic punctuations. What's my assurance as a reader that whatever you're planning to write (and have written) will be of quality? Please don't take this particular comment as an attack towards you and your skills--I'm sure you write wonderfully and such but I'm just concerned--no, curious actually. I never knew the utility of language(s) had hierarchies. When do you know when it's irrelevant to be proper?

Also, apart from that, doesn't it scare you that despite your competence with the language, people will get the impression from this post that you're unable to "deliver"? I mean, sure, it's their loss, but I think it's a pity that this post will rob readers of their opportunity to read your work.

Lastly, I apologise if this comment offends you. I'm not perfect with the language but I just needed to clear things up. Not just for me but for the people above who don't quite get it as well.

[identity profile] misplaced-exile.livejournal.com 2009-12-31 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
You should visit [livejournal.com profile] do_me_veela and see if there is a prompt you'd like to claim for their Valentine Veela Fest.

[identity profile] charry-lover16.livejournal.com 2009-12-31 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
I've always been a fan of obsessive love that may even get a little dark. Overly cute and fluffy obsessive love is cool to, but dark takes thought and raw emotion.

And I'm TRULY a big fan of them not knowing they could love another boy until they've found/discovered feelings for/got over the childish hatred for each other.

Hope that sparks some inspiration for you! Good luck!

Twocanz

[identity profile] christangel13.livejournal.com 2009-12-31 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
Sounds amazing! I hope someone will write something like that!!

[identity profile] teprometo.livejournal.com 2009-12-31 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
If you dig obsessive love, check out The Spirit of Hogwarts. I wrote it for the fairytale fest. It's easily findable in my masterlist!

[identity profile] ran-mouri.livejournal.com 2009-12-31 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, your fic, your fic set out my mental!canon for H/D Obsessive Possesive Love *worships*

[identity profile] teprometo.livejournal.com 2010-01-01 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Holy wow! Now that's an insanely flattering comment. Thanks youuu!

[identity profile] teprometo.livejournal.com 2009-12-31 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
So, not to self pimp or anything... But that's exactly what I'm doing.

The fic I wrote for the Fairytale Fest here on bottom!Draco takes root in Phantom of the Opera and totally has that obsessive love thing going on. (You don't need to know Phantom to get the fic.)

I also like the "they're not established gays" deal. I ended up having to do that for Spirit of Hogwarts for Draco to fit the prompt, but Harry certainly never has a history of being attracted to men.

Anyway, all my fic can be found on my masterlist. And, uh, sorry for the blatant and disgusting pimpage! I just thought, "Ooh, ooh! I know a fic that fits that description! Crap. It's also mine..."

[identity profile] charry-lover16.livejournal.com 2009-12-31 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Nothing wrong with pimpage! Thanks for the recc!

Twocanz