bottom_draco

really? then you must tell me where you go to get your fanfiction :D

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feed-me-bug.livejournal.com

WEll when I just want a quick fix I go here - http://bottomdraco.weebly.com/fiction.html

Or use the tags from gossymer's search lists - http://gossymer.livejournal.com/20570.html

Other than that it's the usual searching and hoping XD Oh the woes of H/D Fanfic! Hahahaha

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thank you! >:3

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I find that everywhere except fanfiction.net favour bottom!Draco... thank god.

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eevilalice.livejournal.com

Agreed regarding the preponderance of bottom!Draco.

And also people have different ideas of what is "good" bottom!Draco or good fanfic at all.

I actually find myself overwhelmed by the amount of new bottom!Draco being written and posted, even within this comm.

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Its getting more popular? maybe we're taking over the interwebz world? >:D Lol
I think BottomHarry is still at large over at fanfiction.net.
Agreed about the personal preference thing. I tend to be quite finicky over what I like so maybe that's why I find it difficult to find a piece of fanfiction I like :D I shall have to work on that >.<

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eevilalice.livejournal.com

Ah, yeah, I can't speak to ff.net because I stay away from that place pretty much at all cost, lol. Unless I'm checking out a new fandom and need a place to start or can't find stuff anywhere else.

I have fairly narrow tastes too, maybe (although I don't mind some switching and I can read bottom!Harry, depending). It's always just a matter of wading through the massive amounts of stuff out there. That's the hard part for me.

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ran-mouri.livejournal.com

I hear you, luv! I have the same problem and it's almost making me want to cry. IMHO since the Harry Potter books are all from Harry's POV (sort of) and the readers are used to feel identified with Harry they would prefer to see him as the bottom, I dun know, sort of trying to live off Harry? My psychologist said something like that about RPG.

Remember that most readers are... teenage girls and not all of them are mature enough to understand charactarization and such. *shrugs*

As for recs, sorry, dun have any that might interest you that you haven't probably read by now. Hope you get more luck with the other users.

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Ah, someone who feels my pain! >:D
I suppose you're right about the POV thing, I never thought of that before. I suppose its easier to get into the character of someone you already know in depth. Bah, whatever :3

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Omg! Saaaaamee!!

I find fanfiction.net so annoying !! I can't read anyting from there anymore (unless sumone as recomended it) cuz everytime i tink 'Oh this sounds good!' it turns out to be an accursed weakling!bottom!OOC!Harry and it drives me nuts -_- (the quality of the fics on there are also... bad). How can the hero of the wizarding world possibly be a bottom to Draco of all people!

The only reason I think that people think Harry as a bottom is because Daniel Radcliffe is stupidly short. That's the only thing I can think of it being! Based on character and looks Draco is so the bottom! With his blonde hair and all and his snide little comments and his body guards Crabbe and Goyle! He's hardly macho or top material...

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yeah, plus I like my bottom's to have a bit of attitude ^.^

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deffo! He wouldnt be Draco without attitude :L

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nope, he'd be Ginny Weasley! ¬.¬
plus, Tom Felton!

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Funny enough, since I've been in the fandom for almost a decade already, I can tell you that bottom!Draco didn't start out common or accessible. In fact, there were more top!Draco works initially--that or switch fics. My friend,

i_l0ve_my_az and I would joke around about wanting to bleach our eyes as we were fourteen and already assaulted by R18, golden showers, Harry-taking-up-pythons-in-his-arse fanfiction. I know, we were ridiculously curious and masochists.

Coincidentally, there were more well-written works from before though. I don't know what happened but I guess back then, the plot was more flexible?

Anyway, as for the presence of bottom!Harry fanfiction--I asked several friends of mine who were into this preference, mind, and I can't say for sure that this is a general fact or one that's wholly true but well, this is what they say:

One, most of them are females and they tend to associate themselves with the main character, which is Harry, simply because the book is told in his perspective or POV. They say and I quote, "What silly girl wouldn't want to have Draco swoon over them?" (Their logic, not mind, I'd rather have an unshaven Harry swoon over me!)

Next, they reason that Draco's personality, though posh and classy, seems rather aggressive. To them, aggressive is equated to rugged. I wanted to say that Draco's too prissy to get dirt under his nails but well, to each his own.

Also, they think Harry is subservient in all aspects. I will admit that Harry bitched my ear off during the fifth book but well, I happen to think the manliest men are the bitchiest out there.

Personally, I think it's a matter of chemistry. Yes, it has something to do with their personalities but I don't think it should automatically mean that bottom!Draco = submissive = femme. Draco just seems like the type who is spoiled enough to demand more pleasure as opposed to giving it--reveling in gratuitous sex most importantly.

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everyone to their own, I suppose.
they reason that Draco's personality, though posh and classy, seems rather aggressive.
I think Draco is aggressive in a verbal sence (though I personally think his snark is self protective thing) but if Hermione's bitch punch was anything to go by, he's certainly not much of a physical fighter.
Plus, I don't know how old your friends are, but I find that young girls tend to like their bottoms to be very sub (blushing-virgin-lie-back-and-take-it kind of thing) cause most people see the bottom as themselves and teenage girls have a tendency to think like this.
But I personally like my bottom's to have attitude :D (and Draco's got plenty of that.)

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I agree, I think everyone's entitled to their own opinions and preferences, even if you don't agree to it or share disparate ones.

My friends are as old as I am but fandom-wise, probably not as old. I'm almost twenty-two but I've been in the fandom since i was twelve. Several of my friends started their foray into slash fandom only about three to four years ago.

I personally think age has no effect on self-projection but I do agree that the younger ones tend to make the submissive ones femme--which is something I don't particularly promote but nevertheless, I peruse through anyway.

I also agree! I like bottoms to have more attitude and spunk! It really depends on the character's makeshift--the character's appearance is not a determinant. Personality, on the other hand, is--probably not the most telling factor but it still plays a part. Besides, it's just a preference, I don't know why some people think being submissive = derogatory, being a top = proof of manly machismo. Whatevs.

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I see your point! I'd prefer to swoon over Harry (not Daniel Radcliffe ew.) which is probably why I prefer bottom!Draco but that culd also be because Draco is my fave character idk.

The thing about it being because the book is in Harry's POV is summin else i agree with, we see all his sides; his weaknesses, his bad times and vulnerable times...

I suppose you could read Draco's character both ways... I for one don't see him as rugged at all :L. Draco's all talk and bitch and no action, he's a pussy. Why else is he always between Crabbe and Goyle? Certainly not their brains or looks.

I can't believe there was a time that reading a fic with Harry bottoming didn't bother me! Well, I think I've always preferred Harry to be some-what of a top, but I didn't take any notice of details like who shagged who it seemed irrelivant to the fic (you could tell I was young obviously :L). To me, being a top isn't just about shagging, it's a role in the relationship, the leader/defender of sorts without it being forced if you get me. Harry's the perfect match, he's protective of those he loves, he's brave, he's stubborn, he doesn't wimp out of a fight and heck he's gone against a serial killer more times than is healthy. He has many top traits but that doesnt mean he doesnt cry sometimes, doesn't get vulnerable, everyone has those times. Which is what people confuse with his character when they choose to see Harry as bottom -_-. No... we jsut haven't been given the chance to see Draco's character as much as Harry's. Imagine the book being from Draco's POV and then imagine what glimpses we'd get of Harry, you wouldn't peg him as a bottom if that was the case! Not once has he been weak around Draco but Draco's been weak loads of times around Hrry (forbidden forest, buckbeak, girls bathroom, ferret... need I go on?)... I know what I'm trying to say okay and I know that paragraph wasn't coherent but what can you do... Lol.

And nonono I totally disagree with the person who said that awfully written bottom!Draco is as bad as an awfully written bottom!harry. No it's not! Because at least the badly written bottom!Draco fic has the positive of being bottom!Draco (ahaha)! I also think Harry's impulsiveness would make him more of a top than a bottom... Sorry just needed to add those in...

Was I the only person who didn't notice the bottom/top thing that goes on in the fandom when I first read Harry/Draco? (Infact... I think I covered my eyes at the R rated scenes... even at 14 I think :L). I can only remember reading switch fics... I can't even remember reading a bottom!Harry fic (as in a full on bottom!Harry fic).

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Haha, well, rest assured, there were more bottom!Harry fics, especially from the BNFs back then. Some of them were obscure though but there were tiny details that I MAY have assumed. XD

Also well, personally, I like my bottoms prissy but I don't necessarily think they are incapable of defending themselves. Likewise, I think that I like my tops to be dense and slightly careless but hey, I think they need defending all the same.

I really do think it's a matter of preference! Haha.

I more or less read a book detaching myself from it. Like, yes, I see myself as Harry upon reading and to be honest, I am able to separate the canon-verse from fanon-verse simply because whilst reading the book, I've called Draco a twit more than I'd like to because I sympathized with Harry but fanon-wise, I just want to get them together. In fact, I thought that Harry deserved his life in the epilogue--after the unjust turmoil he's been subjected to, it was only perfect for him to have a rather nondescript, simple life. Fanon-wise, I'd rather disregard the epilogue. XD

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"Imagine the book being from Draco's POV and then imagine what glimpses we'd get of Harry, ..."

I will be very, very interested in reading that book/fic... if it is bottom!draco fic! =D

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thegrey88.livejournal.com

I confess, I started out in H/D fandom by reading bottom!Harry. *gasp*

Bottom!Harry appeals to me then because to me I feel Harry needs to be taken care of due to his neglect in his early years and he in my humble opinion doesn't know how to take care of himself. Hermione and Ron tend to look out for him, no? Besides that, I figured that well he needs a sanctuary to let loose from all the saving-the-world thing. Draco will not coddle him too much unless there's heavy sarcasm involved. Like 'Snatch'(doesn't mean it's a bottom!H fic, they didn't proceed to the sex level). And Draco seems so in control unlike Harry whose impulsiveness makes me want to bang his head or douse him in ice water. Protective-but-pretending-not-to-care!Draco fits and is IC, no?

However I've changed my tune since then and switched to read bottom!Draco fics now cause we have prolific authors that write amazing bottom!Draco and they hit all the things that I want in a HD fic better. Besides bossy bottom and dominant!protective!Harry is hot. Draco being comforted is <3. I've been spoiled by amazing bottom!Draco and cannot to converted back. But I do read SOME switching!fics those are only the times where I can stomach bottom!Harry.

Yes I agree horribly written bottom!Draco out there that are as bad as awfully written bottom!Harry.*sighs* Make me want to gorge my eyes out. I like my boys as equal in personality and strength but I take good ones as it is.

Here are a few recs but I think you may have already read them.

1) "Chasing the Pride of Portee" by Newshound is one where they HAD a secret r/s and Harry was happy. Ahhh I can't recall if Harry is physically bigger (same goes with the rest of the recs) but he is an auror and he can ahem exert his authority over Draco. *cackles* However it's currently WIP, features Harry in a r/s with OC and plot is moving towards the angst direction <3.
http://www.thehexfiles.net/viewstory.php?sid=14069

2) "Lush Life" (Sequel to Lettered) by pir8fancier
http://archive.skyehawke.com/story.php?no=13315

3) "If Wishes Were Children..." by oldenuf2nb. Tho I can't really if they were in a secret r/s. I think they are but may be wrong.
http://community.livejournal.com/hd_inspired/8916.html

4) "Animal Arc" by enchanted-jae.
http://enchanted-jae.livejournal.com/tag/animal%20arc

5) "Greenland Ranch by Reiko Katsura. There is a bit of As/S tho I advise you skip em cause I think you would prefer a top!Potter. :P (So do I)
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5323625/1/Greenland_Ranch

Cheers.

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thank you for the recs ^_^
And I have to admit, when I first came into this fandom I at first read bottomHarry fics. Mostly, I think, because that's all I found. But now! ahhh, now! I have this com ;) and I can never go back >:3

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valkyrie17.livejournal.com

I don't care who tops and who bottoms, but there's certainly far more bottomDraco than bottomHarry that I've run across.

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Valkyrie17, If you want bottom!Harry, fanfiction.net is crawling with it. Especially femme Harry (now to me that just silly, it goes against the whole point of Harry/Draco!)

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Really? I find that there isn't much until as of late or perhaps, since the release of the sixth book. Mostly though, I just think that sexual preferences were obscure.

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aquila-star.livejournal.com

I'd rather have an unshaven Harry swoon over me!

THIS.

I like bottom!Draco because I love him with Harry, I think it suits both their personalities better, (I totally agree with the last paragraph above as well) and Harry is just a big ole turn on for me, lol.

Also, Draco is always after Harry to get a reaction, I think he wants Harry to snap and just take him, I think he wants to lose himself in Harry, but he's never given the chance. In canon. ;) And for Harry, having someone give in to him, as much as Draco ever could, seems to be something he would like. Having that control, that much trust from another person...it's not something he's ever really had, yk? He's never been in control of his destiny, and no one trusts him, even Ron and Hermione don't at times. A lot of the time. :(

I find a lot of bottom!Harry and while I don't mind reading it, I have a marked preference for bottom!Draco, as I feel it's more IC and I like the visual of a grown-up, powerful and masculine Harry pounding prissy, spoiled Draco into the mattress like there's no tomorrow. ;)

I do find bottom!Draco more frequently, but perhaps it's just because I'm looking for it? Dunno.

Anyway, my last two fest fics were bottom!Harry by request and I'm SO relieved to be writing for this comm again...it's hard to go so far from my inclinations. ;)

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yes, there is something appealing about manly Harry lol >.>

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Aquila_star, you're dp is so cute :L

I totally agree with everything you said about it being slightly more IC and all (an everything else come to think of it. I especially liked::
''.. and I like the visual of a grown-up, powerful and masculine Harry pounding prissy, spoiled Draco into the mattress like there's no tomorrow. ;) '' . Ditto.

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leonette-sarasz.livejournal.com

hun... did i say that i love u?? *starry eyed*

XDD

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I find a lot of bottom!Harry and while I don't mind reading it, I have a marked preference for bottom!Draco, as I feel it's more IC and I like the visual of a grown-up, powerful and masculine Harry pounding prissy, spoiled Draco into the mattress like there's no tomorrow. ;)

Well said, my friend. I personally don't mind reading bottom!Harry, it's not as if it has any psychological effect on me whatsoever but I just don't derive pleasure from it. it just seems off and though it's not harmful in any way, the illogical action is tantamount to subjecting myself to purposeful mental torture.

Also, I don't find well-written, good quality bottom!Draco fanfiction often but I do find a lot of obscure, no mention of sexual roles fanfiction that are mostly well written. Usually, I prefer those because then they'll be left to my imagination. XD I find myself writing those so as not to exclude bottom!Harry fans as well.

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leonette-sarasz.livejournal.com

*drooling over manly, rugged Dom Harry*

for me... i love a fic where Draco is still IC but he's bottoming.. and also i have a kink for taller Draco.. XDD

like Aquila_star's fic...
http://archive.skyehawke.com/story.php?no=13902

*i love this fic to death!!* XDD

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leonette-sarasz.livejournal.com

hmm... can i rec my own fic?? *puppy eyed*

its a one-shot...

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4054673/1/OMG_Hes_Wearing_a_Slytherin_Tie

oh!!!

did i tell u that i simply adore PregDraco?!??

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you can rec whatever you like! It just means I have more to read! Yay!
And I also lovelovelove MpregDraco! Sexeh!

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Hehehe... My secret kink is shorter!slightly bulkier!top (insert Harry here) paired with taller!leaner!Draco. I saw it in (real life) het couple and it looks good in the eye (yes, even the sex looks hot), so, I imagine it will also looks good for slash pairing (such as Harry/Draco).

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plotting-pen.livejournal.com

i agree with you there. I'm having the worst time trying to find good bottom!Draco to read. This is a point I make over and over again, but when I say b!Draco, I do NOT mean 'fem!Draco'. And so it's extremely difficult for me to find good fics. And by good fics, I am reminded of anything by frayach, rhysenn, oldenuf2nb, silentauror, furiosity, brummell... They're about 99% b!Draco, which is more than what I can ask for in this fandom. B!Harry is everywhere, I can't even browse through ff.net, and especially NOT adultff.net :( Sometimes we even get bharry recs or fic searches, which can be extremely upsetting because that means that obviously someone does not understand what bottom!Draco community is all about!

So now I've been reduced to reading PG-13, PG fics because I can't handle going through long fics and then realize lo and behold, b!Harry :(

/rant

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I sympathize completely!
I really hate it when in a summary or whatever it sais 'HarryDraco' or 'HD' and then you read it and its DracoHarry! Get your names straight! (haha I made a joke! *headdesk*)
I've also read fics where in the beginning it has all the characterization of a bottomDraco fic and then when it gets to the sex Harry's suddenly the bottom! I'm sitting their with a WTF expression thinking 'you decieved me!'

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"in the beginning it has all the characterization of a bottomDraco fic and then when it gets to the sex Harry's suddenly the bottom"

This is actually what I hate the most! And probably the only reason I ended up reading exclusive top!Draco fics. But still, a good fic is a good fic. I usually remembered the title/author but I deleted it from my hard disk as soon as I finish reading it XD

I will be forever grateful if authors would be willing to give warning on who's top, who's bottom or if the fic is switching fic. Even subtle codes like Harry/Draco, Draco/Harry and HarryDracoHarry is sufficient.

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I find that good fics aren't recced all over the place. I guess because as a reader, there are times you want to content yourself with absurd plots (major angst, major drama that you can only find in well, non-quality fanfiction archives--will not mention names but well, I'm sure you know what I'm talking about) and sometimes, good fics are just way to above to create said plots. That, in itself, is hindrance to garnering readers.

Like this gorgeous Ron/Draco fanfiction I found yesterday--it's well-written, poignant, and beautiful but it's only been saved by 10 people over at Delicious. It's very strange.

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ooo, ron/draco! is it bottom!draco? what&who is the title&author?

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... I've read a lot over the last week, before I left for Hong Kong.

I think it is either one of these three:

How Ron Weasley Learned to Tolerate Kimchi and Draco Malfoy by happiestwhen (http://community.livejournal.com/balloonstrings/26670.html)
The Odd Couple by thetreacletart (http://thetreacletart.livejournal.com/243994.html#cutid1)
Better When We're Together by 1ightning (http://community.livejournal.com/slashfest/84742.html#cutid1)

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This is sad, but I admit I usually give up on long fics (above 20 chapters) which are rated R or NC-17 until someone said clearly that it is bottom!draco. T_T

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jaimelepink.livejournal.com

Ughhh god, I cannot stand bottom Harry.

I really think it's all about who you identify with when reading the books, and since most of us are females and, technically, we're on the receiving end of sex, we tend to like our chosen characters to bottom. If that makes sense. Personality would also factor into this, of course.

But whether you identify with Harry or Draco, I just don't see Harry taking it up the ass for anyone. He had a life time of oppression, of people telling him what to do, of perceiving himself as a pawn in the magical community. I don't think he would allow himself to give up control that way. Also, the idea just annoys me.

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I don't think he would allow himself to give up control that way.

Actually, that sort of makes sense.

Also, I do agree that I think Harry should top. Only, I think the important clause to my statement would be often--I mean, it's wholly understandable if they switch from time to time, and perhaps when Harry is paired with someone else, depending on who it was, he could perhaps bottom?

The character I don't see willing to give up his control though is Ron but hey, maybe that's cause I'm such a Ron stan. XD

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i'm agree about ron. that's why i rarely read harry/ron (except for the smut XD)

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