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Mar. 31st, 2010 12:23 pm
[identity profile] hangdab.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] bottom_draco
I need some help...

- Does anyone know the fic called "The Lights" (Sorry I don't remember the author name). It's M-Preg. Draco is the one who pregnant and I think their daughter's name is Godiva.

- Could you guys recommend me some good M-Preg or good angsty Harry/Draco fics for me (The one that you think it's not well-known but really good or it's the new one). It'd be nice if it's Bottom!Draco.

Thank you so much.
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Date: 2010-03-31 04:43 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
My favorite mpreg stories are Things That Change by Ociwen and If Wishes Were Children by oldenuf2nb. They are wonderfully written and quite well-known so I'm sure you've read them before.
Have you checked out this links yet?
http://community.livejournal.com/bottom_draco/614121.html
The recs in it are just splendid.

Painless_j also has a great list of mpreg fics under diff character. However I am not sure the fics included under mpreg! draco are all bottom! draco fics though. Be aware.
http://painless-j.net/blog/2007/11/02/themed-list-mpreg-by-character/#Draco

Date: 2010-03-31 09:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vitaminsee-0h.livejournal.com
I totally second Things That Change. It will blow you away COMPLETELY.

Aaaand, The Ridiculous Notion by Nattfish is hilarious. It's PG13, so it's safe :))

http://nattish.livejournal.com/49584.html

Enjoy~

Date: 2010-03-31 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reikokatsura.livejournal.com
The Copper Cauldron (http://community.livejournal.com/newshound_fics/tag/the%20copper%20cauldron) by Newshound is fabulous!

The Horribly Optimistic and Naive (http://community.livejournal.com/hd_holidays/154225.html) by Jordansleigh is another.

Sperm Cow (http://thetwobroomsticks.slashcity.net/siren/SpermCow.html) by Empathatic Siren <3

The Infection (http://community.livejournal.com/hd_inspired/18317.html) by Dacro <3

Practicing The Same Religion" by Duinn Fionn <3

Mansion Built Upon Sand (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3918485/1/Mansion_Built_Upon_Sand) by Jinko

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Date: 2010-03-31 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xxxx-jenny-xxxx.livejournal.com
Sperm cow has some Top!Draco, only got as far as that part and couldn't make myself read it!

Just though I'd warn everyone! I only read bottom!Draco and so do a few people on here, so here's ample warning! :D

Date: 2010-03-31 10:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reikokatsura.livejournal.com
Really? Huh. I can't remember. I don't pay mind to that kind of thing, so that's probably why =p

Date: 2010-04-01 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xxxx-jenny-xxxx.livejournal.com
I wish I was the same, years of being bombarded by bottom!Harry has me hating it!

The rest of your links have been keeping me sane however ;D

Date: 2010-04-01 12:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reikokatsura.livejournal.com
I've always been very partial to them switching positions, as I pretty much hate it when one character is given the "female" role (ridiculous, as they're both male, IMO. They both have cocks, not girl parts, and I love 'em for it <3). I love me a nice bottom!Draco and bottom!Harry as much as the next girl (or guy!), but it's the fics where they switch, where there are no definite roles and it's just two men, no substitutes for women, that gets my blood pumping. *Squishes those fics*

When it comes to their relationship, I like keeping it close to canon (in terms of characterization), though I do venture out a lot. I always find it more likely that Harry would be the "bottom", as he's shorter and definitely more starved for love and affection. But he's way too stubborn to let Draco and all his sexy manliness be on top all the time (in more than one sense), so they'd definitely fight for that position, I think. And not just physically, but mentally, as well. I think they're both far too willful to be "bottoms", especially mentally and emotionally.

Circumstances could change that, though.

So in the end, it really depends on the situation that surrounds them.

Ok. Sorry about that. I completely went on and on and bloody on. I can't help myself when I talk H/D.

Sorry!

Date: 2010-04-01 01:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsukiihime.livejournal.com
ah, but some of us are just more partial to bottom!draco. personally, harry acting slutty and bottoming just turns me off and makes me queasy, but that's just me. this is why i stick to bottom!draco community a lot more than the general harrydraco com. at least here, i'm mentally prepared to skip a few sex scenes to read on if i need to.

Date: 2010-04-01 01:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reikokatsura.livejournal.com
Comments like this confuse me, because I can never tell what people mean when they say "bottom!Draco". Do they mean sexually or personality-wise? Both? And what if neither Harry or Draco acts "bottom-ish" in any way, but Harry just likes to be on the receiving end in sex? Because to me, what sexual position a person usually partakes in bears no relevance to their personality. It's like saying that men who bottom are girly, and that's not true at all.

Extreme!bottom fics bother me some as they remind me a great deal of Het (*shudders*). Like I said, who bottoms or who doesn't really doesn't bother me at all. I don't pay much mind to it, tbh, unless it's really obvious (like, say, Jordan Grant's "Owned" fic, or Loui's "Teacher's Pet" series).

As I was saying, though, the deal with bottom!Draco or bottom!Harry confuses me a lot. I never understand what people are implying by that. I think it would be a lot easier all around if people just referred to it as "submissive" instead, since that pretty much rounds it up, both physically and character-wise.

Date: 2010-04-01 01:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xxxx-jenny-xxxx.livejournal.com
I'm the same as you, if the fic is good enough I'll just skip through the Top!Draco scenes, although very rarely does that happen, my sister is a die hard bottom!Harry reader and just does not understand how I see Draco as the more Bottom-y of the pair!

It annoys me however, just like yourself, when Harry acts like a bottom, it just does not seem right at all to me.

I find that the majority of fics these days feature a bottom!harry, which I mostly blame on the film adaptation Harry being so short, sometimes I wonder how different fandom would be if Daniel Radcliff was taller ...

Date: 2010-04-01 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitschobrien.livejournal.com
I prefer him as bottom in the sexual role. As for Harry's height, that has nothing to do with his sexual preferences. At least, not with the gay men I know. I know many 6' men who prefer it up the arse. =/

Furthermore, a lot of them don't even act feminine. I think people need to shuck the notion that bottoming equates femininity.

Date: 2010-04-01 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xxxx-jenny-xxxx.livejournal.com
I suppose it's all preference at the end of the day, like I've said my sister loves bottom!Harry (Or have him in the more submissive role, I think that would be a better term for it!) and just cannot understand why I do not like it!

Quite incovienient as she'll tell me to read a fic that just does not suit my preference at all. And vice versa with her!

Date: 2010-04-01 02:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reikokatsura.livejournal.com
I think people need to shuck the notion that bottoming equates femininity.

I agree, but that's what a very large portion of people believe when they request "bottom!Character". Not all, of course, but a good many. And it's hard not to think of it like that when you get (no offense intended to any party. I'm really just observing and honestly curious) people saying "bottom!character only", choosing only to read stories where a character is submissive. And let's face it, the receiving end of a sexual relationship will always be thought of as the woman's role. It's irking, I know, and I find it to be severely aggravating, but it's true.

I don't believe that what position a person indulges in sexually determines their character or personality. I really don't. It's sometimes difficult, however, setting it apart when people are dead set on doing the opposite (i.e., throwing a man in what is universally considered a female's position, in practically every aspect).

I could understand the issue with not wanting to read Draco or Harry perceived a certain way (for instance, a catty Snape, or a submissive Hermione, is a bit disturbing), but I can't understand what sexual position the character takes as anything of importance, as it had nothing to do with their character. Draco can still be snarky and sultry and devious and still love to drill Harry into the mattress. Harry can still be strong and manly and want to take it up the bum.

I can't help but think (and I reiterate my original statement that I mean no offense to anyone, and am only trying to satisfy my curiosity) that people who read only bottom!character slash(and I mean exclusively) are looking for someone to play the woman's role in a two-person relationship. They're looking for man/female instead of man/man. I feel that while they probably like the idea of man/man, they're probably too uncomfortable with the full notion of it and can't get into it at all unless one of the men are portrayed with female traits or behaviors. It's just an observation, and I'm sure not everyone feels the same, but I reckon a good majority of those people do.

Date: 2010-04-01 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reikokatsura.livejournal.com
Isn't it, though? I'm sorry, but I'm finding that really hilarious! She's over there reccing bottom!Harry and you're on the other side reccing bottom!Draco and none of you are going to read anything the other recs because it's not your tastes at all. Hee. It's like with me and my sister and manga. She loves the sweet, fluffy romance stuff and I adore the hardcore action and sexiness. The only way we were on eye level with each other is if we recced a fic that fell between.

And you're right. I know it really just comes down to preferences. I'm only curious about it. Maybe I shouldn't spend so much time analyzing it. I love bottom!Draco, and I understand the appeal of it, but it's the exclusiveness that confuses the shite out of me.

Date: 2010-04-01 02:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsukiihime.livejournal.com
well, people say "bottoming" or "topping" in the gay community too, so...
it's basically a sexual role. i didn't mean by personality, i meant who recieves =). i'm fine with switching when stories are good enough, but when harry is too submissive, it makes me skip those parts xD. i love completely submissive draco, but i like submissive top!harry as well, so i wouldn't really apply "submissive" to it all the time.

Date: 2010-04-01 02:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsukiihime.livejournal.com
agreed~! daniel radcliffe is a bit too....well, let's just say that tom felton seems manlier than he is =_=;;. but that's why i never have the image of radcliffe in my head when i read fics 8D~!

Date: 2010-04-01 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitschobrien.livejournal.com
Well, for me, it's like this. I don't see why people think there will be a fight for dominance. I've been in homosexual relationships (oh shit TMI), and I have NEVER had this fight over who does what. I can see that being an issue if Harry and Draco are teenagers and discovering sexuality at this point, but I rarely ever encounter that because I don't read Hogwarts era often.

As for why I like Draco to bottom, it's simple. For every bottom!Draco fic, there are 25 bottom!Harry fics. It's annoying and it made me a reactionary. Especially since most of the authors fuck Harry's character the hell up to fit their subconsciously heterosexual agenda. Not that they don't do it to Draco, too, whenever they deign to write him getting fucked.
I also find Draco to be a more complex character, and people's portrayal of him as this hardcore top are sort of... ludicrous. But in the end, I like well-written switching. God I rambled.

Date: 2010-04-01 02:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reikokatsura.livejournal.com
Ah, no worries ;)

Despite all the fics we have in the Drarry fandom, it's still not very easy finding one that portrays them perfectly (to our own individual standards). Honestly, I think I've read more bottom!Draco than bottom!Harry. It might just be that I can't remember, though (as I don't pay attention), and I hang out hear and awful lot as they give good recs.

The whole "fighting for dominance" thing is really a personal preference (as I find it so unbelievably hot), but I'm really more of a switcher-person. I prefer them adapting to each other and switching whenever the situation calls for it. Kind of like in Calanthe's "Big Dick Come Quick". Fics where positions aren't really brought attention on are more ideal, though. I'll read anything, however, as long as it's well written and made believable.

And I'll stop now. Thanks for offering your opinion :)

Date: 2010-04-01 03:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reikokatsura.livejournal.com
I think the height difference is hilarious! Harry, savior of the Wizarding world, boy-who-lived, chosen one, defeater of Voldemort... a munchkin! *cackles*


Joking aside, I think it makes sense since he probably malnourished as a child. It's a feasible excuse, at any rate. I like the idea of them both being tall, but to be completely honest, I always feel that Harry should be taller. I guess it's just his role as the savior or something. Brings to mind a tall, towering fellow with wide shoulders and a broad chest. Draco should be tall simply because I always imagined him to be model-like, all long and lean and lithe. Also, when I think of Malfoys, I think tall. Narcissa and Lucius and Scorpius should all be very tall. Hm. So maybe I do prefer a taller Draco. I have no idea.

Date: 2010-04-01 10:12 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] killua
slightly late to the party haha but while I largly agree with your comments about switching, do keep in mind that this is a BOTTOMDRACO community and the rules of this community states that by bottom Draco we mean bottom in sex. A lot of the people in this community are personally squicked by the idea of Draco topping in sex and that's really all there is to it. Switching is supposed to be warned if only out of courtesy.

THAT ASIDE I personally don't like bottom!Harry mostly because that side of fandom kind of ruined it for me early on. Bad fics and honestly I'm not a big Harry fan so reading about him so prominently in fanfic is a bit irking. That's just me though. When it comes to other slash pairings, switching is awesome even if I have my preferred t/b roles for them.

Date: 2010-04-01 10:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] isoldam.livejournal.com
Is Harry being short mentioned in the books? I know the actor -what's his name- who plays him is short, but so what? I find the movie actors fairly unattractive, so I never think of them when I read fanfic. Is Draco described as tall in the books? My personal vision of the characters has them both fairly tall as adults.

Date: 2010-04-01 12:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] isoldam.livejournal.com
you said:

I can't help but think that people who read only bottom!character slash(and I mean exclusively) are looking for someone to play the woman's role in a two-person relationship. They're looking for man/female instead of man/man. I feel that while they probably like the idea of man/man, they're probably too uncomfortable with the full notion of it and can't get into it at all unless one of the men are portrayed with female traits or behaviors.

I only read bottom!Draco and the above does not describe me at all. I am not uncomfortable with male/male. I'm not looking for feminized males, but I am looking for a subversive take on heterosexual relationships.

Draco is my favorite character, and that is why I like him to bottom. When I say a character bottoms, I'm speaking about the sex act only, not the character's behavior outside the bedroom. I like both male characters to behave like men, not women or infants.

My favorite H/D fic ever is Shadow of His Wings (http://theguestroom.houseofhobbits.com/hp/sohw.html), in which both Harry and Draco are complete bad-asses. (This fic contains the best H/D duel ever written, IMHO.) Draco is in no way portrayed as effeminate, but he does occupy the traditional female role in most romances. He is the one that is coveted and pursued. When he bottoms he assumes a traditionally female power. I like how subversive that is, and I like that my favorite character is admired and made much of.

It's true that a lot of fics feminize Draco or Harry. (Actually, I think it would be more accurate to say they infantilize them.) I don't like that kind of fic at all, but I have no problem with others writing or reading them. Slash does not equal 'gay'. If you want accurate portrayals of gay relationships, you should probably go read some gay fiction. The majority of slash is written by women for women. A lot of it does model heterosexual behavior because many of writers are heterosexual. Why should that be seen as a bad thing?

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